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Last post 06-15-2008, 4:21 PM by stormer171977. 47 replies.
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  •  06-02-2008, 5:17 PM 3069063

    Editorial - YES! We lost power again!

    ok, I'll begin by saying I'm usually a patient person, but I have my limits.  During the ice storm of 2007 we lost our power for 9 days.  NINE DAYS!!!  Now, it was indeed a test of more than my patience, but also my sanity because our neighbors across the street had power for most of those 9 days and people several streets over in the other direction also had power.  I think that period of time tested everyone who went through the power outages and I'm probably not the only person who gets a nervous twitch at the thought of the power going out again.

    Well, Sunday morning at 10:30am the power went out again and according to PSO's fine handy dandy answering service, on my first call in to their automated answering system, I was told it was probably going to be TUESDAY NIGHT before the power is turned back on for everyone.  Well... frankly, I just wanted to know where my block sat in the grand scheme of power grids. 

    I called again last night and I had all I could take of this monotone answering system that is dedicated to turning sane patient people into twitching-on-the-edge-of-ripping-a-phone-book-in-half semblance of a living breathing human being.  I decided not to answer any question that the human voice asked me and eventually since the SYSTEM could not lead me around by my ear it finally gave me a REAL PERSON to speak to.

    With this real person on the line I proceeded to ask them "When will my power be turned back on"?  This person proceeded to spit out a pre-written answer that a child could memorize in 5 seconds, to which I responded, "THAT ISN'T GOOD enough! I want to know when MY power will be turned back on.. could you please transfer me to someone who can give me more information?"  This operator told me that they would, but they needed my info to pass on to the supervisor..soo.. like a sheep following the shepherd I gave them my info...  They promptly hung up on me.

    So...... sitting in a dark room trying to find the numbers on my cell phone AGAIN, so I could get it to light up and dial PSO again.. I went through the entire scenario again and finally got another real person on the line.  That poor operator spouted the same pre-written response to which I responded.... "Please TRANSFER me to someone who can give me more info than this??"

    No such luck ........  I'm here to state unquivically that I HATE answering systems and pre-written answers .......  when will PSO get their act together and give us some actual customer service with real answers to individual questions instead of trying to placate us with answers that don't help us, don't get us any closer to knowing when our power will be turned on, and doesn't provide us - the paying customer - with service that we PAY FOR??

    If we all did our individual jobs and provided our customers with similar service, there'd be alot of us who'd be out on the street with no job.

     


    jd4fox23
  •  06-02-2008, 6:01 PM 3069210 in reply to 3069063

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    OMFG! JD with an attitude? <Marks on calender and makes it repeating as a day of remembrance>.
    Been there, done that with the ice storm. We decided to wait it out this time. We got lucky.

    Yep, it's getting harder and harder to get good customer service now a days.


  •  06-02-2008, 6:37 PM 3069395 in reply to 3069210

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    kindagreywolf:
    OMFG! JD with an attitude? <Marks on calender and makes it repeating as a day of remembrance>.
    Been there, done that with the ice storm. We decided to wait it out this time. We got lucky.

    Yep, it's getting harder and harder to get good customer service now a days.

    You liked that huh? LOL  I get inspired at times... ergo.. the "Editorial" portion of the thread title.  :D


    jd4fox23
  •  06-02-2008, 6:44 PM 3069427 in reply to 3069063

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    :)

  •  06-02-2008, 7:03 PM 3069509 in reply to 3069427

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    Tega:
    Did you miss that there was a HUGE storm on Sunday? PSO doesn't control the weather. What in gods name will you do if there is a REAL disaster? I say suck it up and tough it out. It will be back on when it is back on.

    yep .. was in the middle of that huge storm ....  we have generators and a disaster plan.  I say give customers something unique ... CUSTOMER SERVICE!  :)   We pay for service - we don't pay to be told we will have to do without service.


    jd4fox23
  •  06-02-2008, 7:34 PM 3069628 in reply to 3069063

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    I think we can all agree that the most beautiful place to live in Tulsa is Midtown. This is also the area that home values are the highest, as are the taxes on homes.

    For some reason PSO has failed to provide the service required to this area by burying all power lines under the soil. Currently power polls in this area are located in the middle of the sidewalks, which is completely inexcusable.

    PSO does bury their power lines in this area for the Mansions but it's at the expense of all other Midtowners. We must save the trees in Midtown and PSO must take the responsibility for burying the lines that is their responsibility to do so.

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  •  06-02-2008, 9:23 PM 3070136 in reply to 3069427

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    Tega:
    Did you miss that there was a HUGE storm on Sunday? PSO doesn't control the weather. What in gods name will you do if there is a REAL disaster? I say suck it up and tough it out. It will be back on when it is back on.

    JD's issue is there stupid computer answering machine, like most Business's have. He is not saying PSO sucks, he is saying there CUSTOMER SERVICE sucks.
    If power goes out, how long do you have to wait? One hour? A day? 3 Days, A week? A simple answer can very well determine your next move. If your fridge is full and you don't have a lot of money, what inconveniences can you live with?
    If you get a computer answering machine, it should direct your call to the appropriate people. You should not have to site there entering codes and issuing commands in basically what winds up in "Endless Loops".  Give us a HUMAN that can answer our question, not a generic message.
    I don't think it was so much the computer but every time there's a storm, power goes out. PSO can get lines back up fast out of sheer repetition. So the question becomes, "O.K., it happened again, how long this time? Is my cell phone going to go dead pushing buttons and telling the computer what I want before my question gets answered"?

    On the flip side, I have enough power for 3 to 5 days. I can keep my cell phone charged, run a 100 watt flourescnt light, do lite cooking and keep a pot of coffee on, without violating Fire Codes. I also have outdoor Solar lights that can be hooked up inside in a minute.
    I just have to put a blanket over my windows so I don't have to support the neighbors that don't plan ahead.

    Still, in an emergency it would be nice to hear a HUMAN if there is a problem. Even if they laugh so hard they pee themselves because your in an area that won't be done till next week.

  •  06-02-2008, 11:27 PM 3070579 in reply to 3070136

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    Smile:)

  •  06-03-2008, 2:20 AM 3070941 in reply to 3070579

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    Well tough, that's there job, there hired to do it :-) :-) :-)

    There's an old saying, "Have you ever noticed that the person that tells you to calm down, is usually the person that ticked you off in the first place"?
  •  06-03-2008, 9:37 AM 3071744 in reply to 3070579

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    Tega:

    We actually have good customer service. We have good field techs as well. Do you realize that there were 66,000 people without service and in 24 hours we had those numbers down to 22,000? That's pretty fast. You want to know instantly why when where and how long. Well, guess what folks. People have to actually go into the field to see what the damage is and then estimate how long it will be until it is back on. The fact is that 100 years of experience is what allows us to even estimate a time frame.


    Well... first off, I never directed any comments towards the field techs.  Never mentioned them.  I imagine they are well capable people doing their jobs with years of expertise.  Even though we live in a 'fast food' world I don't believe anyone expects any instant fix to a major power outage.  Personally, what I expect is to be given needed and requested INFORMATION from a living breathing human being who also knows what it feels like to not know what is going on in a disaster event.  When I make a phone call to inquire as to when my power will be turned on, I don't want to be lumped into the "whole" because I am an individual who PAYs for a specific service.  I am not a 'group' who just needs to know generic information that maybe.. the entire problem will be solved in 2½ days.  I, as an individual who PAYS for electricity expects to know where my particular house sits in the grand scheme of all the electric grids.  Formerly, there was a time when I could call the power company and they would actually look my house up on a computer and let me know where the field techs were working, when they were going to get to my area, and give me a pretty good estimate of when my grid would be turned back on. What happened to that sort of personal service?  I am a 'person' who pays for a service, and I want that type of service again.

    I'm not sorry to say that an automated response, or a pre-written pat answer is just NOT GOOD ENOUGH, imo.  We, the customer - the people who pay for a service, are not getting what we pay for, and on top of that we are being treated as if we should bow down and kneel to the mighty power company and thank our lucky stars that they got up, went out, and did some work when, in fact, we pay them to do a job.  They don't go out in the weather out the goodness of their hearts to serve the community and volunteer their services - THEY GET PAID VERY WELL to do this job. All that aside, I appreciate the circumstances and conditions they work under and the sacrifices they make, but then again, that's their JOB.  It's not like they don't expect to fix power lines during power outages.  It's THEIR job.  

    Tega:

    People are so helpless these days. "What about my food!?" Umm. ice. "What about my kids?!" Um, deal with it. People raised children for thousands of years with no power and you can't do it for a few hours? Please. Take that time to show your kids how to handle an emergency. Adapt for gods sake. Go outside, take a walk, read a book spend time with your kids at a park. The world isn't ending. I hate menu routing as much as the next person but sometimes it is needed. When 60,000 people are calling at once you have to have a way to get the message out. Again, not the end of the world.


    Granted, some people do have a 'helpless' mentality, but that's a totally separate issue that might be good for a separate thread, and not related to the issue I began this editorial thread about.  We live in a time that we pay for electricity - power - and to compare the needs and expectations of when societies lived without power is a bit irrelevent to this argument.  If we had to live without power again, I'm sure our society would manage to adapt, but that hasn't happened. 

    My particular issue here is with who controls the information that I get during such disasters.  Do I want to depend upon an answering machine system? NO!  I also don't want the electric company to keep me in the dark in more ways than just being without power.  I want to know specifics. For example, since it can be done and has been done, I want to know where my outage sits on the power grid and when will techs be working on MY problem.  I PAY THEM .. they don't pay me.  If I pay them for a service, it stands to reason they should provide the service and requested information they are getting paid to provide, and that doesn't include withholding vital information that effects my living arrangements.  As someone has said here already, the information the power company provides me can effect the next decisions I make as far as preserving food in a frig/freezer, or moving the family to a safer environment.  Answering machines and pat pre-written responses are just not good enough to allow anyone to make good decisions in a disaster situation.

    Tega:

    Our guys are out there working around the clock when their own families are home without power. Some of my friends at work got to sit there and listen to people piss and moan about their ice cream melting, get screamed at all day and then go home to no power and wait it out like everyone else. Our guys are the ones who battled the ice and the freezing weather to make sure everyone got power. Does it take time? Yeah. It does. Deal with it. You want the lines burried? Talk to the people running the "Stop the Box" program. Get em to shut the hell up and things might happen faster. I tell you one thing, they don't want the lines burried but they are the first to call when the lights go out.


    Again, the field techs do their job with great expertise, I'm sure, but they get paid to do that job.  It is their choice to do that job.  They and their families KNOW what it will cost them to do that job, yet they still do it.  Far be it from the customer who pays for a service to expect those employees of that service to actually do that job because they get paid to do it....(sarcasm inserted)  Why is it even an issue that electric company field techs have to go out in bad weather to fix power problems?  That's what they do....  That's what they get PAID to do ....  It would be different if they volunteered their time away from their homes and family to just help out the community and didn't expect any compensation for their time and effort, but they don't volunteer - again... that's their JOB that they get PAID to do.

    Moving on..... Yes, the people who answer the phones get to talk to frustrated customers, but PSO customers have reason to be frustrated ...  the people who answer the phones have reason to be frustrated, too ...  the problem is that in another life, many of us remember customer service actually had nothing to do with automated answering machine responses or pat answers.  Customer service associates from the pwr company, in another lifetime, actually answered my questions - gave me information that I was asking for - didn't treat me, the customer, as if I was lucky to even get a response from a machine. 

    Frustrated??  YES!  I want to go back a few years to the days when I could make a phone call and talk to a real person and have that real person find out the information I needed, and then actually tell me the answer to my questions.

    An update to my personal power outage ...  I called PSO again yesterday around lunch time and listened to the usual lengthy answering machine... waited and finally got through to a real person.  This nice lady actually gave me some personalized customer service.  She took my information, looked it up on her computer, told me where I stood in the grand scheme of the power grid and gave me a very good educated guess as to when my power would be turned on.  I'm here to say that she was spot on and my power was back on right when she estimated it would be.

    THAT ^ ^ is the service I expect when I call PSO.  I know it is possible, and I personally will keep telling them that anything less than service like this last lady gave me is just not good enough.  KUDOS to the last lady I talked to yesterday.  :)  I don't know what your name is, but you and those of you who give service like that.. you know who you are.  :)  THANKS!!!!!!!  That's the service I PAY FOR!!!  :D


    jd4fox23
  •  06-03-2008, 10:39 AM 3072104 in reply to 3071744

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    wowzers and people wander why at work why im afraid to answer the phones up at the front desk
  •  06-03-2008, 11:39 AM 3072419 in reply to 3072104

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    MustangFanatic:
    wowzers and people wander why at work why im afraid to answer the phones up at the front desk

     

    hahaaaaahahahaha!  Sometimes, it's a good thing to editorialize how you feel about certain circumstances you go through.  That way you can actually speak in the realm of the sane when you finally get an actual human being on the phone.  :)


    jd4fox23
  •  06-03-2008, 12:17 PM 3072625 in reply to 3072419

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    jd4fox23:

    MustangFanatic:
    wowzers and people wander why at work why im afraid to answer the phones up at the front desk

     

    hahaaaaahahahaha!  Sometimes, it's a good thing to editorialize how you feel about certain circumstances you go through.  That way you can actually speak in the realm of the sane when you finally get an actual human being on the phone.  :)

    Bravo!! jd4fox23, you said it like it is. So many businesses use their automated systems now, it's so hard to speak with a live person any more. Green Dot credit card is like that and so is Magic Jack's computer phone, it is frustrating when you need information, and all you get is a computer message machine, that really "SUCKS." Like you said: they hang up on you, I guess they feel you LOVE to continue dialing their number, just to be hung up on again. (cricket)
  •  06-03-2008, 3:34 PM 3073903 in reply to 3071744

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    Smile

  •  06-03-2008, 4:35 PM 3074167 in reply to 3073903

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    Tega:

    She didn't give you information for your specific home. Hate to tell ya that but reps only get info for circuits. Those can include hundreds to thousands of people. She wasn't telling you where YOU stood. Trust me. The fact that your power came back on right when she said it would is again, the 100 years of experience that allows us to calculate a time frame for your circuit. It is a specific formula based on years of information. Most of the time the ETR we give IS spot on. In cases of serious disaster they can get close, but often things happen like yesterday when trees weakened by the storm went ahead and fell over and caused more outages (shocking the folks who only believe outages happen in storms, of course!) I agree talking to a human is best but getting info out quickly means sometimes you have to be automated. Not to mention that the CC denotes that we have to have a response in a certain number of seconds for each call. So.. blame the CC and god for the storm I suppose.


    The lady on the phone took my location information and looked up on the computer what "group" (I forget exactly what she called it) my house was in as far as outages, then she had information of where service was being sent out to and what sort of situations the techs were looking to fix first.  Her guess-timate was a result of that information and she actually shared what she knew with me.  She didn't keep me in the dark (speaking about withholding information here)...  That's all most of us want - is to know the details of what is going on and how what is going on behind the scenes is going to effect my own situation.

    Tega:

    As far as the "It's their job" mentality. You would be shocked by the number of people working for the company that don't just see it as a job. They take an active interest in the community. Some people actually have pride in what they do and aren't just there for the money.

    Well... they aren't there because they are volunteering with no compensation, either.  :)  Now, they may like their job... but it comes down to the detail that it is their job to do what they do.  They get compensated for it.  Liking ones job is just icing on top of the cake.  If they didn't get paid, I'm betting they would be finding something else to do with their time that they would get paid for doing.


    jd4fox23
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