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  •  05-28-2007, 10:29 AM 1667968

    DHS

    I have had experience with DHS of Oklahoma when my ex daughter in law attempted to kill my then 17 month old granddaughter,the 3 year old and the one that was abused were placed with me and then it began,i was treated like the criminal and the convicted child abuser was caudled with rent assistance,food stamps etc.She subsequently gave birth to my new grandson in Nov,that is when pittsburg county DHS started allowing the 3 year old over night visits with the mom.she came home stating mom had boyfriends spending the night and that mom hit her in the back when i reported it DHS decided to ignore it,by the grace of GOD my son won custody of the abused child and the newborn and on the same day Pittsburg county DHS sent the 3 year old home to mom even though their report said there was a moderate risk of child abuse against her and the fact that the mom was convicted of felony child abuse and received a 25 year suspended sentence,you tell me where DHS helps.I hope someone does something before their are thousands of Kelsey Briggs or Ryan Lukes in Oklahoma.On an ironic note my ex daughter in law the convicted child abuser actually named the new child Ryan after the child that was killed by his own mothers hands.It's a sick worl folks and we need to open our eyes before it is too late 
  •  06-03-2007, 10:51 PM 1687582 in reply to 1667968

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    God I hope there's not more Kelsey Briggs out there, but DHS needs to get their act together so that doesn't happen
  •  06-04-2007, 10:35 PM 1691271 in reply to 1667968

    Re: DHS

    IZZYSGMA:
    I have had experience with DHS of Oklahoma when my ex daughter in law attempted to kill my then 17 month old granddaughter,the 3 year old and the one that was abused were placed with me and then it began,i was treated like the criminal and the convicted child abuser was caudled with rent assistance,food stamps etc.She subsequently gave birth to my new grandson in Nov,that is when pittsburg county DHS started allowing the 3 year old over night visits with the mom.she came home stating mom had boyfriends spending the night and that mom hit her in the back when i reported it DHS decided to ignore it,by the grace of GOD my son won custody of the abused child and the newborn and on the same day Pittsburg county DHS sent the 3 year old home to mom even though their report said there was a moderate risk of child abuse against her and the fact that the mom was convicted of felony child abuse and received a 25 year suspended sentence,you tell me where DHS helps.I hope someone does something before their are thousands of Kelsey Briggs or Ryan Lukes in Oklahoma.On an ironic note my ex daughter in law the convicted child abuser actually named the new child Ryan after the child that was killed by his own mothers hands.It's a sick worl folks and we need to open our eyes before it is too late 

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  •  06-06-2007, 5:26 PM 1697652 in reply to 1691271

    Re: DHS

    i think that this is totally outragous that we allow this kind of thing to happen here in oklahoma  this is why me and my wife DO NOT put our kids in to daycare or have a baby sitter with so many sick people out there how can we trust some one, it is going to be a long time be for we ever trust dhs or anyother goverment regulated facility with our kids and i also think that this really damages  the D.H.S creditability.
  •  06-09-2007, 9:11 AM 1705972 in reply to 1697652

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    Don't think you're safe.  If someone files a complaint against you and DHS sees even a bruise on your child they can (and have) get an Emergency Court Order to take all of your children and place them in foster home(s).  They can influence doctors and nurses just by giving them their own opion of what they think happened - and with the doctors and nurses backing them it is a done deal with the Court.  DHS reps can lie to you to get you to take your children someplace and then take them or they can take them straight out of your home.  It has happened to two of my sons.  As long as you bow and scrape to the Gods of DHS you may get to keep your children but I wouldn't be too sure.  They could be just saying that to give them time to process the Court Order.  You know the saying:  Power corrupts - Absolute Power corrupts Absolutely.
  •  06-13-2007, 11:33 PM 1716628 in reply to 1705972

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    You are absolutely correct!  We had an adopted teenager who made false abuse allegations.  They removed all of our children, including our biological daughter who was 9, and has lived a very protected (some call it sheltered) life.  I don't leave my girls with strangers, or even friends.  They aren't allowed to spend the night at other peoples homes, but in a few short hours of "investigating", they put her in foster care!!!  This teenager is no stranger to false allegations, (documented by DHS)but they took her word as the gospel, what about what the other girls had to say???? Why not believe them?   DHS will falsify records to make their case look better, they will lie to the judge, lie to the children, and if you don't have a darn good attorney, you can kiss your children good bye!!  Took months to get my children back, but we did it!!!  And if you think they have to have clear and convincing evidence, think again!  We had all the evidence and proof the child was lying, but they would never have the adjudication so that the Judge could hear the proof!!!!  Please don't ever speak to DHS, everything you say will be twisted to help DHS's case against you!  You are guilty until you prove yourself innocent!!!!
  •  06-13-2007, 11:36 PM 1716636 in reply to 1667968

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    Pittsburg County has got to be the worst!!  They could do a whole news hour just on the people that have been put through hell by this county.  Of course, so many fear retaliation they aren't willing to talk on camera. Sad world we live in!
  •  06-14-2007, 9:53 PM 1719724 in reply to 1705972

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    there are 2 little girls one 6 one 8 right now that are in dhs custody ,that are placed into a foster home of a daycare owner that daycare was shut down and they were placed with her previously , to the daycare being shut down , the 2 girls were taken with no cause from the mother , it was someone else that had done something to the children without the mother knowing , the children were taken the very next day after the mother had found out , and the children were not around that person after the mother found out , the foster mother has a record of drug possesion, is married to a felon that has been in prison numerous times for assault with deadly weapon and many more things , the youngest daughter is not allowed to speak with her grandmother or any family on the phone ever since the little girl told her family that the foster mom threatened to beat her , and also has told since then she had been left home alone , with her 8 year old sister at the foster home , and also just recently stated that they refused to let her drink any water for a whole day , and dhs has been informed of all this and they turn their head s and dont do nothing

    these children have been there now for a year

    even though they want to go home to the mother

    the mother has done everything dhs asked and pays  500 a month to dhs for child support

    on a job that pays 9 dollars an hour

     

    i do think foster homes and dhs in tulsa need to be investigated

  •  06-19-2007, 3:57 PM 1729779 in reply to 1691271

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    I am disgusted with DHS. They do NOT do their jobs. Personally, I would LOVE it if my child never had to step foot in a daycare again. DHS needs to do at least one SURPRISE visit every month (MINIMAL). Because if they don't know you are coming, that's when you're going to see how the facility is really ran, and I do know this from experience! And on a recent daycare search, on a list of about 15 facilities MAYBE 2 of them actually appeared sanitary enough to even CONSIDER.

    I think there are too many footholes in DHS.. people who need help - don't get it, while others "nuke" the state for everything they possibly can, and get away with it!! I know of a family who lives near my babysitter, the mother had the children taken away and given to the father... the mother is there now, and by court order is not suppose to be near those kids. They do not have water on, and haven't for at least 2 months, constantly borrowing water, and everything else they can from the neighbors.

    And I know of a mother who has 4 children... she bounces from place to place living with different men, and / or whoever can put them up for the time being. She is able bodied and able to work, but convinced the state that she is mental, and collects a check every month, along with about 600$ in food stamps! Why is this right??? I feel sorry for all the children in both of these cases, and I think Tulsa DHS has to make some serious changes. I know both of these families have been turned into DHS and NOTHING has been done. These children are doing without SUPPORT.

  •  06-20-2007, 6:27 PM 1733483 in reply to 1719724

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    dtulsagrl wrote the following post at 06-14-2007 9:53 PM: "there are 2 little girls one 6 one 8 right now that are in dhs custody ,that are placed into a foster home of a daycare owner that daycare was shut down and they were placed with her previously "

    I personally knew the above poster & personally cared for her children while they were enrolled in that now closed daycare center. I will  attest to the unfitness of the so-called foster parent. The sole & only reason she sought foster care of those little girls was because her business, the daycare, was flailing & failing. She basically was going bankrupt & saw them as a ticket for a new cash flow. I know who she is, I know how she acta around children & i know about her criminal past & the actuivities of her criminal relatives & friends. No way should DHS ever have granted her license for foster care! These little girls loved their mother & would like nothing else than to be home with her! This so-called foster parent smacked her own children around, pawned her youngest childs care off on her own children, even keeping them out of school because she didnt want to deal w/ the youngest ones care. She would show up to work intoxicated & also worked in a strip club at night. Is this the kind of person who should be a foster parent?

  •  07-17-2007, 12:11 PM 1806245 in reply to 1729779

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    Dept. of

    Horrific

    Stupidity

  •  07-17-2007, 12:14 PM 1806260 in reply to 1733483

    Re: DHS

    debbntulsa:

    dtulsagrl wrote the following post at 06-14-2007 9:53 PM: "there are 2 little girls one 6 one 8 right now that are in dhs custody ,that are placed into a foster home of a daycare owner that daycare was shut down and they were placed with her previously "

    I personally knew the above poster & personally cared for her children while they were enrolled in that now closed daycare center. I will  attest to the unfitness of the so-called foster parent. The sole & only reason she sought foster care of those little girls was because her business, the daycare, was flailing & failing. She basically was going bankrupt & saw them as a ticket for a new cash flow. I know who she is, I know how she acta around children & i know about her criminal past & the actuivities of her criminal relatives & friends. No way should DHS ever have granted her license for foster care! These little girls loved their mother & would like nothing else than to be home with her! This so-called foster parent smacked her own children around, pawned her youngest childs care off on her own children, even keeping them out of school because she didnt want to deal w/ the youngest ones care. She would show up to work intoxicated & also worked in a strip club at night. Is this the kind of person who should be a foster parent?

     

    Dept of

    Horrific

    Stupidity

  •  10-24-2007, 5:29 PM 2086246 in reply to 1667968

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    Hey I got something like that but it happened on the other side.  My kid was took into custody because of something that happend at someone else's house while I was at work.  While there he had 4 busted lips, 3 black noses (Black that you would not believe), a black eye and then they could not find one of his teeth and it was up in his gum.  I was called by the worker and forewarned everytime that Eric had had a accident, I was in disbelief.  I called attorneys, reported to the police and asked for him to be moved.  Finally I got him out of there, guess how?  He was home on a visit and wanted to wash the dishes.  He had on a long sleeve shirt.  He got it wet and I changed it  and my god he had black bruises all up and down his arm from fingers to shoulder.  It is ironic that is how I got him back.  When I had to take him back before the decision the same worker said about his arms Eric how did you hurt yourself this time.  ***.
  •  01-26-2008, 8:14 PM 2438260 in reply to 2086246

    Re: DHS

    we need to organize to fight
  •  01-27-2008, 6:56 PM 2442021 in reply to 1719724

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    I'm going through it for a second time. In 1992 my kids were taken from their mother and I was not told until 3 weeks later. I was then accused of sexually molesting them. I tried for a year to get them back, and mentally I couldn't take it any more, and tried to kill myself. That's when I realized I had to let them go and try to take care of myself and hope the kids would be ok.  Now, I finally had two more children and DHS has them and is trying to terminate our parental rights. I know that we are good parents. DHS never even tried to talk to any of the people who've known us for long time. I don't think people are stupid, they can tell when someone is truly mistreating their children. We love our children dearly and would NEVER do anything to hurt them. We have so many plans of things we want to do with them and get for them, and teach them. We spent time evey day just holding them and reading books that they love to look at. We miss them so much. We are very angry that DHS has stolen this precious time with our kids from us. It seems that everywhere we turn they have blocked us from getting our kids back. They have twisted the answers we gave to their questions around so badly we look like enept, stupid, and violent people. WE ARE NOT!!! We just want them to give us our kids back and leave us alone for the rest of our lives, to live in peace!!!!  We the people, need to get together and organize marches and rallies and demand that they stop seperating and tormenting good families. The kids, whom they CLAIM they are helping, are torn from all that is familiar to them, put in possibly dangerous places, with possibly dangerous people, and they are not big enough to defend themselves, and don't understand what's going on. Our little boy is just 1 year old. How can he possibly understand why his mommy and daddy aren't there to hold him and comfort him and love him anymore?  What can we do to make them give our babies back?????  Our babies don't deserve to be treated this way!!!!  He is sure to get moved around quite a few times before things are settled. We've done research and found books that talk about the psychological damage that is enormous to infants that are tramatized so many times. Here's a website you can check out: www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/attachment_disorder to learn more. There's also a good book to read about what happens to children who've been adopted or in fostercare through horrible circumstances. We are begging and pleading for help!!!! Here follows a site we just found today,1-27-08. I would like to know how come this is still happening after two years have passed.....

    PRAISE GOD!

    President Bush Signs 'Keeping Children and Families Safe Act of 2003'

    President Bush, signed the Keeping Children and Families Safe Act of 2003 (S.342) on June 25, 2003. The new law will help protect innocent families against overly intrusive social workers. "Over the years thousands of homeschool families have been victimized by social workers operating on nothing more than a tip from an unknown stranger," said Michael Farris, General Counsel for Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA). Michael Farris joined President Bush along with Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson, Senator Judd Gregg, House Majority Leader Tom Delay and Representatives Boehner and Hoekstra for the signing ceremony, which was held in the Oval Office.


    Photo Credit White House photo by Susan Sterner
    President George W. Bush signs S. 342, the Keeping Children and Families Safe Act of 2003, in the Oval Office Wednesday, June 25, 2003. The act reauthorizes the Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Program and other related programs. (Mike Farris standing far right)

    The Keeping Children and Families Safe Act reauthorizes and modifies the Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act (CAPTA) and related law. These programs generally support activities to prevent and treat child abuse and family violence. In his statement the signing President Bush said, "I commend Congress for passing the Keeping Children and Families Safe Act of 2003 and am pleased to sign it into law. The Act will allow us to strengthen state and community-based programs that prevent child abuse and family violence and treat victims."

    HSLDA believes those who abuse children should be severely punished. Yet in its 20-year history, HSLDA has handled thousands of cases arising from anonymous tips made to social workers concerning the conduct of homeschooling families. These tips, often supplied by those holding a grudge against home education, are often investigated aggressively. Social workers frequently demand to inspect the bodies of homeschool children or to interview very young children outside the presence of their parents.

    "Such aggressiveness, in a system which presumes guilt, can result in needless pain and anxiety for families," said Farris.

    HSLDA championed three new changes in S.342. First, social workers will now be required to tell families the nature of the accusations against them at their first contact. With this information, families will be able to legally challenge the social worker and demand that a warrant be obtained before interviews or investigations are conducted. Since warrants can only issue from a judge on the basis of probable cause, overzealous cases can now be efficiently weeded out.

    The second provision will require that social workers be provided with additional training in the constitutional rights of citizens. Social workers will be advised that the Constitution protects citizens against unreasonable searches and seizures. The third pertains to citizen advisory boards which can hear complaints against overly aggressive social workers.

    In November 2001, HSLDA Senior Counsel, Chris Klicka, testified before the House Committee on Education and the Workforce Subcommittee on Select Education about this legislation. His testimony was influential in convincing the subcommittee to add these significant amendments to the bill.

    "With these provisions clearly showing the intent of Congress, families in all 50 states will have more protection from overly aggressive social workers," said Klicka. "This is a breakthrough for parents' rights and will enable HSLDA to be better armed to defend members families."

    HSLDA will be working with both the federal Health and Human Services Department and with the state legislatures to implement and codify this new language.

    Visit the HSLDA (Home School Legal Defense Association) Issues Library for more information on this bill and child welfare reform.


    A non-profit organization dedicated to fighting the Department of Human Services' (DHS's) horrific injustices and holding law-enforcement officials accountable to the oaths they have sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America!


    For too long, an agency under DHS called Protective Services has operated outside the laws of the Constitution while law-enforcement officials either turn their heads or rubber-stamp approvals to steal children without due process and without substantial evidence.  An estimated 60% of children do not need to be removed from their homes, but DHS does it anyway.  Last year in Maine, there were more than 3000 children taken from their homes and placed in foster care.  That is an estimated 1800 children that were needlessly traumatized along with their families!

    FMC (Free Maine's Children) is a growing statewide grass-roots organization that is networking people who care about Maine children, their families, and want to bring an end to the tyranny of DHS stealing children from their homes akin to Nazi, Germany and the bounty hunters of the old west.  If you would like to assist Free Maine's Children Foundation, then please let us know!  Your name will be held in strick confidence.  Don't let fear immobilize you from doing the right thing!

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