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Dems Discussing 5-Year Amnesty Plan
Last post 05-12-2008, 7:06 PM by patriot1947. 16 replies.
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02-20-2008, 2:07 PM |
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Dems Discussing 5-Year Amnesty Plan
Report: Dems Discussing 5-Year Amnesty Plan 02-17-2008
A spokesperson for the grassroots immigration organization Numbers USA says House Democrats are having behind-the-scenes discussions about creating a special visa for illegal immigrants -- a proposal they believe will enjoy considerable Republican support.
As part of its stated mission to support what it calls "comprehensive immigration reform," the Congressional Hispanic Caucus desires "a tough, fair, and workable path to legalization for the undocumented." The website for the group argues that "the only practical and humane solution is to set up a program that gives individuals a chance to come out of the shadows, register with the government, submit to security screenings, pay restitution, learn English and U.S. civics, and maintain a clean work and criminal record."
Rosemary Jenks is director of government relations for Numbers USA. She has learned that members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus are spearheading the effort to approve a plan that would allow any illegal alien living in the United States to simply prove they have a job, pay a fine, and pass a background check, to receive the gift of legal status for five years.
The five-year visa plan would be attached to a bill that would increase the number of temporary workers in the hopes of getting Republican support, she says. Jenks contends this is an attempt to stall the deportation of illegal immigrants until they can get full amnesty.
"Rahm Emanuel [a Democratic congressman from Illinois] has said publicly that he doesn't believe that they will be able to get the full-scale amnesty passed until the second term of the next president," she states. "That, of course, puts it right about five years from now. So the hope of the Caucus is that they can this so-called temporary visa -- a five-year visa for illegal aliens -- passed, and then when they're able to they can get the full-scale amnesty."
Jenks supposes that Democrats are afraid that should either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama be elected president this year, passage of an amnesty plan during a first term would likely preclude the Democratic president from being re-elected for a second term.
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02-20-2008, 2:17 PM |
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leo4u
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Re: Dems Discussing 5-Year Amnesty Plan
God, help the democrats to win the prezidential election ! end the war in Irak and anywhere else, and push this economy a little bit before we die of starvation ( or of eating clones ).
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02-20-2008, 2:49 PM |
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Re: Dems Discussing 5-Year Amnesty Plan
They want to reward lawbreaking? What a crock of %$!& They take advantage of the fact that we share a undersecured border to sneak in here and burden an already stretched federal assistance program. Schools are are at capacity-plus with illegal and anchor children and most of the parents pay no federal income tax to put towards education like everyone else does. The hospitals are being used as "free healthcare" because how do you bill someone undocumented? Assistance programs meant for the poor and elderly are being overwhelmed by illegals applying for their children to get food stamps, medicaid, housing, and day care assistance. So does this apply for others coming from overseas? Asians, Middleasterners, and others all have to pay, fill out a barrage of forms, security checks, ect to come here so why the "special *ss kissing and coddling"? We, as Americans, looks like we're going to get more than what we bargained for!
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02-20-2008, 9:22 PM |
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Holy Cow!!!!!!! This election is like choosing between hospital food and airline food!
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02-21-2008, 1:27 AM |
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you may be right ,but, you don't get health care if you are an illegal and is not a matter of life or death,in fact you don't get anything if you don't have an insurance. and food stamps and other thinks like that ,no way ! you have to be a citizen to get that , not only legally here.
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02-21-2008, 10:03 AM |
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mrywilley
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hospital emergency rooms are packed with illegals going there for flu and bronchitits and where do you think all the pregnant women go to have their babies? They go to the OSU medical clinic for prenatal care. An illegal can apply for food stamps, day care assistance, Section 8 housing and medicaid FOR their anchor babies so they benefit from the government assistance. All they are told to say is that they prepare, store, and eat seperate from their children. They children can get day care assistance so their illegal parents can go work for cash (no taxes taken out in MOST cases). So they're not putting back in what they are taking. I have friends that work at DHS and she says its like DHS will use all kinds of loopholes to cater to the Hispanic community (especially the illegals) and she says its all about government funding. The more that apply the more funding they receive.
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02-21-2008, 10:56 AM |
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mrywilley:hospital emergency rooms are packed with illegals going there for flu and bronchitits and where do you think all the pregnant women go to have their babies? They go to the OSU medical clinic for prenatal care. An illegal can apply for food stamps, day care assistance, Section 8 housing and medicaid FOR their anchor babies so they benefit from the government assistance. All they are told to say is that they prepare, store, and eat seperate from their children. They children can get day care assistance so their illegal parents can go work for cash (no taxes taken out in MOST cases). So they're not putting back in what they are taking. I have friends that work at DHS and she says its like DHS will use all kinds of loopholes to cater to the Hispanic community (especially the illegals) and she says its all about government funding. The more that apply the more funding they receive.
The use of the word "ANCHOR BABIES" is rasists. Please use the proper wording when you refer to illegal babies. The children are innocent, they shouldn't be ridiculed or belittled. Thank you. (cricket)
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02-21-2008, 11:06 AM |
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mrywilley
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The term anchor babies are children that are born in the US to illegal parents as a way to stay here. There isn't a conotation of black, white, brown, or purple. No one is ridiculing them except their parents whose only reason of getting pregnant is in order to stay in the country. This forum is for expressing opinions so don't tell me what I shouldn't be saying. Everyone has a right to say what they think. That is what this country is founded on and to try to sugar coat and be "politically correct" is what is getting this country in a jam.
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02-21-2008, 11:08 AM |
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mrywilley:hospital emergency rooms are packed with illegals going there for flu and bronchitits and where do you think all the pregnant women go to have their babies? They go to the OSU medical clinic for prenatal care. An illegal can apply for food stamps, day care assistance, Section 8 housing and medicaid FOR their anchor babies so they benefit from the government assistance. All they are told to say is that they prepare, store, and eat seperate from their children. They children can get day care assistance so their illegal parents can go work for cash (no taxes taken out in MOST cases). So they're not putting back in what they are taking. I have friends that work at DHS and she says its like DHS will use all kinds of loopholes to cater to the Hispanic community (especially the illegals) and she says its all about government funding. The more that apply the more funding they receive.
hey,, wait one minute, I went to the OSU medical clinic, and what i saw was a 14 year old white girl with her mother and young black "father of the baby", asking for benefits. There were more "Americans" asking for benefits. As far as DHS catering to hispanics-I have never been catered too. The problem is the government offering all this help to everyone. I signed an affidavidt of support for a relative, and trust me we remind her every chance we get that she cannot be asking for assistance.
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02-21-2008, 11:32 AM |
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cricket: mrywilley:hospital emergency rooms are packed with illegals going there for flu and bronchitits and where do you think all the pregnant women go to have their babies? They go to the OSU medical clinic for prenatal care. An illegal can apply for food stamps, day care assistance, Section 8 housing and medicaid FOR their anchor babies so they benefit from the government assistance. All they are told to say is that they prepare, store, and eat seperate from their children. They children can get day care assistance so their illegal parents can go work for cash (no taxes taken out in MOST cases). So they're not putting back in what they are taking. I have friends that work at DHS and she says its like DHS will use all kinds of loopholes to cater to the Hispanic community (especially the illegals) and she says its all about government funding. The more that apply the more funding they receive.
The use of the word "ANCHOR BABIES" is rasists. Please use the proper wording when you refer to illegal babies. The children are innocent, they shouldn't be ridiculed or belittled. Thank you. (cricket)
The illegals aren't here to have babies to become legal, they have babies in their own country as well. So the Americans that have given birth in Mexico when they have traveled on vacation are having "ANCHOR BABIES" in Mexico so possibly they can get a FREE PASSPORT to visit Mexico again? Believe it or not, Mexicans have babies in their own country as well, it's not just in America. What I'm saying is that your labeling an innocent child, they never asked to be born here, it's not their fault. Yes, you can state your opinion just like anyone else, that's what the forum is about, free speach. and I stated mine also. Other countries have came here just to have a baby, hoping to later in life to get their family members legal, it's not just Hispanics. Look at the CUBAN'S entering Florida, doesn't that bother you? They are bringing so many drugs into the U.S. and they are mixing the drugs to make them more deadly, shouldn't that be more of a concern? Oklahoma has already had two cases of these deadly drugs, but it's the CUBANS that are bringing them here, listen to the news. But of course the Hispanics will be blamed for it. Yes, the world is in a termoil at the present, but it wasn't the people that made it that way, it was the governments fault. (cricket)
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02-21-2008, 12:00 PM |
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This sounds like a case of the pot calling the kettle (insert whatever color you believe is politically correct). You said I shouldn't label individuals but now it sounds like you're labeling all Cubans as drug smugglers?! What is up with that? And yes, people have babies all over the world but I work around a lot of Hispanics and most have had children after they came to the US illegally in order for it to be harder for them to be deported because the US isn't going to deport someone who has children that are legal US cititzens. That is until this last bill passed. How can you say that the government is the sole problem for the world's problems? People live in this world and fight over religion, race, global concerns, borders, sexuality ect. One can't lay all the blame at the governments door because this crap has been going on before there was a government.
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02-21-2008, 5:58 PM |
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The difference being that hospital food comes with meds and doctors and the airline food comes with a bumpy ride and unscheduled layovers.
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02-21-2008, 6:40 PM |
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Anchor Babies - Ron Terrell, There's a joke in there somewhere, I just can't think of it.
Anchor babies, Fence Flyers, The Roswell kids, it doesn't matter what you call them, you shouldn't be dropping these kids all over the countryside if you can't make enough to feed yourselves, let alone have them while your doing illegal activities, Your putting you and an innocent child in harms way.
They thing with our society is we relax a bit because children are involved and illegals know it. It's much harder to prosecute an illegal doing something stupid when there is a kid involved.
Whats racist is this Amnesty plan. If you come from Asia, India and other similar countries, You have to Open a business. This plan is geared toward Hispanics who can put on a pair of shorts, Drink some Redbull and be in California by 5:00 pm. Hispanics can jump a fence, but Asians have a 2,000 mile + swim on there hands. This bill isn't racist? It's geared so one specific Nationality can benefit the most.
Meriam-Webster.
racism
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: a
belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and
capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority
of a particular race.
And before you call me racist, I'm not, I hate everyone equally.
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cricket: cricket: mrywilley:hospital emergency rooms are packed with illegals going there for flu and bronchitits and where do you think all the pregnant women go to have their babies? They go to the OSU medical clinic for prenatal care. An illegal can apply for food stamps, day care assistance, Section 8 housing and medicaid FOR their anchor babies so they benefit from the government assistance. All they are told to say is that they prepare, store, and eat seperate from their children. They children can get day care assistance so their illegal parents can go work for cash (no taxes taken out in MOST cases). So they're not putting back in what they are taking. I have friends that work at DHS and she says its like DHS will use all kinds of loopholes to cater to the Hispanic community (especially the illegals) and she says its all about government funding. The more that apply the more funding they receive.
The use of the word "ANCHOR BABIES" is rasists. Please use the proper wording when you refer to illegal babies. The children are innocent, they shouldn't be ridiculed or belittled. Thank you. (cricket)
The illegals aren't here to have babies to become legal, they have babies in their own country as well. So the Americans that have given birth in Mexico when they have traveled on vacation are having "ANCHOR BABIES" in Mexico so possibly they can get a FREE PASSPORT to visit Mexico again? Believe it or not, Mexicans have babies in their own country as well, it's not just in America. What I'm saying is that your labeling an innocent child, they never asked to be born here, it's not their fault. Yes, you can state your opinion just like anyone else, that's what the forum is about, free speach. and I stated mine also. Other countries have came here just to have a baby, hoping to later in life to get their family members legal, it's not just Hispanics. Look at the CUBAN'S entering Florida, doesn't that bother you? They are bringing so many drugs into the U.S. and they are mixing the drugs to make them more deadly, shouldn't that be more of a concern? Oklahoma has already had two cases of these deadly drugs, but it's the CUBANS that are bringing them here, listen to the news. But of course the Hispanics will be blamed for it. Yes, the world is in a termoil at the present, but it wasn't the people that made it that way, it was the governments fault. (cricket)
Cubans ARE Hispanic. Someone who instantly thinks "Mexican" when they hear/see the word Hispanic, is either ignorant or themselves a racist.IMHO
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HarleyFXST: cricket: cricket: mrywilley:hospital emergency rooms are packed with illegals going there for flu and bronchitits and where do you think all the pregnant women go to have their babies? They go to the OSU medical clinic for prenatal care. An illegal can apply for food stamps, day care assistance, Section 8 housing and medicaid FOR their anchor babies so they benefit from the government assistance. All they are told to say is that they prepare, store, and eat seperate from their children. They children can get day care assistance so their illegal parents can go work for cash (no taxes taken out in MOST cases). So they're not putting back in what they are taking. I have friends that work at DHS and she says its like DHS will use all kinds of loopholes to cater to the Hispanic community (especially the illegals) and she says its all about government funding. The more that apply the more funding they receive.
The use of the word "ANCHOR BABIES" is rasists. Please use the proper wording when you refer to illegal babies. The children are innocent, they shouldn't be ridiculed or belittled. Thank you. (cricket)
The illegals aren't here to have babies to become legal, they have babies in their own country as well. So the Americans that have given birth in Mexico when they have traveled on vacation are having "ANCHOR BABIES" in Mexico so possibly they can get a FREE PASSPORT to visit Mexico again? Believe it or not, Mexicans have babies in their own country as well, it's not just in America. What I'm saying is that your labeling an innocent child, they never asked to be born here, it's not their fault. Yes, you can state your opinion just like anyone else, that's what the forum is about, free speach. and I stated mine also. Other countries have came here just to have a baby, hoping to later in life to get their family members legal, it's not just Hispanics. Look at the CUBAN'S entering Florida, doesn't that bother you? They are bringing so many drugs into the U.S. and they are mixing the drugs to make them more deadly, shouldn't that be more of a concern? Oklahoma has already had two cases of these deadly drugs, but it's the CUBANS that are bringing them here, listen to the news. But of course the Hispanics will be blamed for it. Yes, the world is in a termoil at the present, but it wasn't the people that made it that way, it was the governments fault. (cricket)
Cubans ARE Hispanic. Someone who instantly thinks "Mexican" when they hear/see the word Hispanic, is either ignorant or themselves a racist.IMHO 
I know they are considered Hispanics and Mexican refers to the same, as for ignorants, I don't think so, and for being rasists, you are so wrong, since I am a Hispanic from Spain, I would never ridicule my own people, but their is a difference between various Hispanics. Puerto Ricans are Hispanic also. Get my drift? Cubans are a different type of Hispanics. They each speak simular languages, but their is a difference in words. Just like the different tribes of Indians, they speak differently also. Just because I signaled out Cubans, doesn't make me rasists or ignorant., it's a particular type of Hispanic. (cricket)
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