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Last post 11-16-2007, 12:09 PM by mrywilley. 109 replies.
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  •  10-25-2007, 11:45 AM 2088489 in reply to 2086140

    Re: Illegal Immigrants

    Your post shows exactly how the act of illegally entering this country then leads to more illegal acts such as tax fraud.  When they CHOSE to do this then they need to accept all the consequences that come with being caught here illegally.  Don't have children if you are here illegally then they won't cause anguish and heartbreak if deported.  And the complaint hasn't emerged until recently because one didn't notice until the schools started changing.  We now have Hispanic kids enrolled without the standard immunizations that American kids must have.  We have kids who cannot speak English and sit through the entire class, week after week, not understanding anything.  And the teachers pass them through to the next grade while our kids have to do the homework, pass the tests, participate in class and behave themselves while next to them, the Hispanic child (who can't speak English) is playing games and on the computer.  How do they get into school without immunizations?  And we wonder why tuberculosis is back and increasing in numbers.  So I lose my sympathy when I've been hit five times within 9 months along 31st and Garnett by all illegals from Mexico.  No insurance, no id, their kids not in carseats but my insurance continues to go up.  All five times they ran into me, three of those times I was stopped at a red light!  So yes, things need to change.  Why don't they rally and protest, like they do here, in their own countries and demand change? 
  •  10-26-2007, 5:52 AM 2091128 in reply to 2088489

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    State Regents Change Policy On Illegal Immigrants

    KOTV - 10/25/2007 12:41 PM - Updated 10/25/2007 10:13 PM


    There's a new restriction in place on financial aid for Oklahoma college students who are not American citizens. They're most often the children of illegal immigrants, who qualify for entry into college by graduating from an Oklahoma high school. The News On 6’s Emory Bryan reports the Oklahoma Regents for Higher Education on Thursday voted to cut off financial aid for a very small group of students: only the ones who are not citizens and are not trying to become citizens.

    It's a reaction to the new state law on immigrants (House Bill 1804) that takes effect next week.

    There were 244 students who fell into the “undocumented students” category last year, who altogether were given $112,000 in state financial aid. That's one-tenth of 1% of the financial aid budget.

    There was an attempt back in April to make these students pay tuition as if they were from out of state, but a Senate committee in the legislature decided that students who had lived in Oklahoma for at least two years, who graduate, should qualify for the same benefits as other Oklahomans.

    Thursday's vote by the regents means as long as they are working on the process, immigrant students can still get financial aid and qualify for in-state tuition rates.

    http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=138588



    Edited to add: I've noticed that all of the States contracted mowing crews along the highways are now white and black. All the signs are there that the State of Oklahoma is going to be getting serious with Bill 1804 come Nov 1st.


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  •  10-26-2007, 8:26 AM 2091349 in reply to 2047227

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    I just want to let all the ignorant people know that mexicans do pay taxes.You think we walk into wal-mart and buy without paying taxes?We pay an extra 9 cents for each dollar we spend too.I notice some people say that the government has spent too much money on the illegals,i would like to know on what? Illegals do not even qualify fo any help.       

  •  10-26-2007, 9:06 AM 2091453 in reply to 2091349

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    1804 is to prevent illegals from getting drivers licenses in Oklahoma--to my understanding they can't get one to begin with.  This is misleading to the people of Oklahoma--it makes them think that illegals were previously able to get a license.  It also says they won't qualify for welfare---again they make it sound like illegals were getting welfare, as far as I know the only help they can get is for their American children. As far as free prenatal care and free childbirth, I'd rather pay to have my baby than be forced to have a 10lb baby naturally, instead of a much needed c-section.

  •  10-26-2007, 9:27 AM 2091509 in reply to 2091349

    Re: Illegal Immigrants

    AlieSanchez:

    I just want to let all the ignorant people know that mexicans do pay taxes.You think we walk into wal-mart and buy without paying taxes?We pay an extra 9 cents for each dollar we spend too.I notice some people say that the government has spent too much money on the illegals,i would like to know on what? Illegals do not even qualify fo any help.       

     

    How much do they pay into Social Security, State Income Tax and Federal Income Tax? How much do they pay into Automobile Insurance and Health Insurance? Do you think these programs are covered by the sales tax they pay at WalMart and QuikTrip?

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  •  10-26-2007, 9:39 AM 2091539 in reply to 2091349

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    Yes you do have to pay the state income tax when you purchase anything but do illegals have the federal income tax taken out of their paychecks just like an American citizen does?  If you say yes they do, are they using someone else's SS# to do it?  Illegal immigrant children are putting a big strain on the schools in Tulsa.  Head Start is full of them.  These are both federally funded but illegals aren't paying the federal tax.  Illegals can go down and get food stamps, medicaid, and child care for all 10 of their children that were born in the US (taxpayers foot the bill for that also) so how can you say the government doesn't spend money on illegals?  Do the parents not eat the food that they buy with ACCESS card that they received for their kids?  Illegals have been receiving free tuition for college until just now and who funded that.......the government?  So please stop the whining and get LEGAL.
  •  10-26-2007, 10:00 AM 2091648 in reply to 2091539

    Re: Illegal Immigrants

    don't know if you know but some have a tax id, which allows them to pay taxes off their checks-what free tuition are you talking about--maybe scholarships-which are foundation funded.  you say for them to get legal, but the government does not want to provide the means-look at the dream act, the one hope for these kids, and nothing was done with it.

  •  10-26-2007, 10:33 AM 2091779 in reply to 2091349

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    I think most everyone understands that if you purchase anything in OK you will pay sales tax.  I think they were refering to social security taxes, state taxes etc that come out of our paychecks.  You know the 25% that they take out of my check every two weeks.  Fed, FICA Med, OK state & FICA SS
  •  10-26-2007, 11:48 AM 2092099 in reply to 2047227

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    In the first place i dont know why the americans are trying to kick us out of here.the mexican people were here in this country way before any other race was. not only that, half of the U.S was mexico one time.I cant believe the country has gotten so racist.When I think about it , it reminds me of the history i learned when i was little.There taking it back to the Martin Luther King days!We are people too.we are human beings too.We also have human rights .In mexico the americans are more than welcome.so why do the americans treat the mexicans the opisite way?I always wonder why the US is so worried about the mexicans when there are much harmful people out there. For instance the       1.)pakistians are terrorist. 2.)Right now in tulsa there is alot of robbings by black guys.I do agree that some mexicans are felons but most are out here just to make a living.I though this was a free country.just because im not from this country im not free?                                                               What happen to all men are created equal?????????????????
  •  10-26-2007, 11:59 AM 2092151 in reply to 2091539

    Re: Illegal Immigrants

    I never said they did not spend any i said "i would like to know on what "they are not spending money on the illegal parent, they spended it on the citizen (child) or now we shouldnt have rights just because my mother is mexican.

  •  10-26-2007, 12:10 PM 2092184 in reply to 2092151

    Re: Illegal Immigrants

    Alie......what are your plans? Are you staying, going to another State or returning to Mexico once Bill 1804 takes effect this coming Thursday?

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  •  10-26-2007, 1:32 PM 2092543 in reply to 2092151

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    I just gave a list of what the government is spending on illegals.  If they have a baby who do you think foots the bill?  Once they have these anchor children and say if they apply for food stamps for their kids do you think that the illegal parents don't eat using that benefit also?  At certain elementary schools here in Tulsa they have FREE English classes.  Who do you think provides the teachers and the free daycare for them to learn?  If I wanted to learn Spanish I would have to pay to take a class.  These anchor children can get free daycare through the state so their illegal parents can work (under the table most times).  Where is my free daycare and I'm a cititzen and pay taxes!  Where is my food stamps?  I work a full time job and so does my husband plus we both have part time jobs just to make ends meet. When do we get the food stamps so I won't have to work the part time job in order to pay for groceries?  Tried to get our youngest into Head Start and were told we make too much!  When you have to work a part time job to pay for groceries and your husband works a part time job in order to compensate for the cost of health insurance that is taken out of his full time paycheck, when is that making too much?!  We were told by Reed's administrator that Head Start has become a "babysitter" for illegal immigrant parents and that we were the wrong color..........white.  I'm becoming very frustrated with all the "illegal rights" and "press one for English" and "let me wave my Mexican flag but I want to live in the US" attitudes. 
  •  10-26-2007, 1:46 PM 2092599 in reply to 2092543

    Re: Illegal Immigrants

    Better yet, go to immigrationcounters.com and let it speak for itself.
  •  10-26-2007, 2:24 PM 2092755 in reply to 2092599

    Re: Illegal Immigrants

    if it's on immigration counters it must be true.. Have you ever noticed on an Oklahoma birth certificate, it just states where the parents are born and gives no indication of legal status-so how do you know that the child is an "anchor baby?, hence the claim on #of anchor babies cannot be documented in Oklahoma, and who knows what other state.
  •  10-26-2007, 2:37 PM 2092818 in reply to 2092755

    Re: Illegal Immigrants

    ariel:
    if it's on immigration counters it must be true.. Have you ever noticed on an Oklahoma birth certificate, it just states where the parents are born and gives no indication of legal status-so how do you know that the child is an "anchor baby?, hence the claim on #of anchor babies cannot be documented in Oklahoma, and who knows what other state.

    They most likely get their information from government records that show medical expenses our government had to pay to deliver these children of illegal immigrants.


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