I believe in giving the kids a good butt busting.  Not to the point that it bruses them but enought to make them realize they are doing wrong.  When I was a kid my parents would always bust my butt if they thought I did something wrong.  My dad would line 4 of us kids up in a row and just start bustin until someone admitted the wrong.  I would always admit just because I was tired of getting my butt busted.  What happened I got more.  Now I know that my parents raised me right.  I went to school, graduated, got married, and then had my kids.  I did the right thing and in the right order.  I do not regret anything that I did.  Yeah at times I feel like my dad abused me and I will never understand why my mother let him since she has passed.  My daughter acts up and yes I will spank her butt if I think she needs it but I never let anger get in the way.  If you feel that much anger, you need to walk away and count to 10 and take a breather.  We also believe in time out.  She hates that because she knows she can't play with her toys.  The only thing is that if you spank your kids in public then people could call the state and say you are abusing your children.  Just take them in the bathroom and bust their butt.  Take them in another room and anywhere that is away from others.  But that is just my opinion.

Marlin:

I say bust that butt, it's a lot cheaper than Retlin and the results are much better.

          Amen brutha....... and we need to quit using video games as a babysitter....noticed I put we, I have been guilty of it in the past.

FOX23 recently aired a story on some disturbing behavioral side-effects.  It didnt turn up in a site search but here's another link:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080228220451.htm

Unwashed Mass:

FOX23 recently aired a story on some disturbing behavioral side-effects.  It didn't turn up in a site search but here's another link:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080228220451.htm

That Article reefers to Violent and Abusive relationships, IE, over spanking.
Are we to teach our children that there is no reprocutions to bad behavior? If we can instill the "Fear of God" in a child when he/she is younger, we wouldn't have so much violence now a days. When I was young and messed up bad in school, I would have a death march home. Grandma and Grandpa would not be happy. Oh, I could run and hide, and God forbid if Grandpa came looking for me. Rather than screwing up and dealing with the aftermath, I flew straight.
I say when there real bad, roll there eyes around there heads. Next time when they get put in a similar situation, they will be able to successfully reason the pros and cons of there actions.

Yep, grew up knowing if I chose to do the wrong thing, I had better really enjoy the moment, cause I was not gonna enjoy the rest of the day once I got home. I got busted plenty, and I know right and wrong, loved and respected my parents, busted my kids butts when they acted up, totally believe in spanking, time out in a room full of toys is a poor excuse for discipline, kinda like suspending errant police officers with pay isn't it?  I say parents need to realize it isn't working, the streets and schools are evidence of that, get back to whipping their little behinds. Don't think a sound spanking when deserved is abusive at all. Once when my son was 4, we went to Kmart, I told him ahead of time we were not going to buy any toys because I only had enough money to get what I was going after, when we got there he wanted a toy, I said no, and reminded him of what we talked about, he cried, increasingly louder, when I told him to stop crying, he fell onto the floor, began kicking and screaming in the middle of the floor, wouldn't stop, so I whipped off my rubber flip flop, picked him up and soundly paddled his behind, he became an angel for the rest of the trip. People were watching, I was a large woman, paddling a child who although almost 5, looked like a 2 or 3 year old (he was little for his age then), several ladies looked like they wanted to say something, but luckily no one did, good thing too, I wasn't in a very good mood by that time. Sometimes you gotta get their attention, beating is abusive, screaming at them is abusive, undermines their self confidence and sense of self worth, but a good paddling only lasts a minute, the lesson last a lot longer. After the lesson is absorbed so to speak, it is time to hug, kiss, accept  "Mommy, I'm sorry", and feel good again. My kids are grown, both bigger than me, still think I would paddle them if they needed it, good kids, love me so much they still spend fun time with me and live with me. LOL

With discipline, you have to start out young and be consistent.  A lot of parents think its cute to hear a 2 year old giving attitude and talking back but that quickly spirals into a 16 year old telling you where to go and how to get there!  Nothing wrong with a sound spanking if its deserved.  For the past twenty years or so there has been a lot of "sparing the rod" in our society and now we're paying for it dearly.