I really don't want to give it a chance.  I agree, it is tacky and a good waiste of money.  We couldn't fill our old convention center let alone a newer, bigger one. 

I'm with you, Stardawg.

Those that voted for it can go support it because I won't be.

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Marlin:

kindagreywolf:

I think we should hire some of these gang bangers to paint this thing. Its a nice looking Tulsa SADium.

rofl........I think you have found the answer in fixing the looks of the arena. Lets turn the Taggers loose on it!

 

Hey, a lot of those taggers do a really great job.  I'm thinkin of lookin for some to tag my home, lol.

But yea, I don't mind a good size stadium as long as we actually need it.  THing is.  I've been to the convention center for a lot of things.  Wrestling, Arena Football, and etc.  Thing is, out of all these events, we've yet to pack the place.  Our Arena football team is the best right now and it still doesn't pack the place.  Shoot, even NASCAR couldn't sell out the convention center, lol.

MrsPR USA:

Give it a chance, it's not even done yet. Who knows one day we can be like OKC...

Bite your tongue!
No, no we dont want to be like OKC!
Im not buying into the "Iconic" BS but really...
We have a river, they had to open up a sewer to pretend they have one.
Come on, we dont need to play second fiddle to some urban sprawl community.

I must say I have been to a lot of cities by Bus and have seen a lot of stadiums. I have eaten hotdogs in Yankee stadium and even threw up on someone for drinking to much at Wrigley Field. But I never saw one that looked like a Nuclear Plant half built.

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stormer171977:

  Shoot, even NASCAR couldn't sell out the convention center, lol.

That's what hurts the most, we could of built a NASCAR track with that $230M and be making money hand over foot through out the entire city.

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That makes a lot more sense to me.  I'm not a huge fan of NASCAR, but look at the money they bring in.  Especially in this area, wow, it could have been great.

Stardawg:

That makes a lot more sense to me.  I'm not a huge fan of NASCAR, but look at the money they bring in.  Especially in this area, wow, it could have been great.

Don't give up hope yet, a certain suburb still has it on their agenda!

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I'm sorry for saying this and I know everyone has their own opinion. But it seems as though you all are just thinking so negative.  Be happy that Tulsa is trying to some what get on the map. We are so far behind as it is. Who really wants to live in a city that is so far behind? Not a lot of people. That's why when majority of the people graduate, they LEAVE......What does that say for Tulsa? Not too much................

Just my Opinion

Sorry, I know you are right, I am all for progress, just in my opinion this is not really progress, it is like painting an old rotten fence with a new shiny coat of paint, it looks good, but underneath it is still just an old rotten fence. I feel that is what Tulsa is trying to do, they want to look good without actally investing themselves emotionally or logically. Don't know if you have ever seen the Elvis Presley movie called "Stay Away Joe", saw it long ago, never forgot this one part,and what Tulsa is doing reminds me of the way they remodeled their house in the movie.  Do you live in Tulsa? How long have you lived here? If you don't mind my asking.

patriot1947:

Sorry, I know you are right, I am all for progress, just in my opinion this is not really progress, it is like painting an old rotten fence with a new shiny coat of paint, it looks good, but underneath it is still just an old rotten fence. I feel that is what Tulsa is trying to do, they want to look good without actally investing themselves emotionally or logically. Don't know if you have ever seen the Elvis Presley movie called "Stay Away Joe", saw it long ago, never forgot this one part,and what Tulsa is doing reminds me of the way they remodeled their house in the movie.  Do you live in Tulsa? How long have you lived here? If you don't mind my asking.

I assume your talking to me: I live in Broken Arrow now. I have only lived here just over a year. I moved from Tulsa and lived there for over 20 years. I have lived on every side of town. N,S,E and W.

No, I cant say I have seen any of Elvis movies. What I see thou, is Tulsa trying....We have a Mayor that may not be great to some, but at least she is trying to do something for Tulsa. I cant say that for too many other Mayors.

Some people say we dont need to copy other city's or state's but look at their economy. Look at their roads etc... They are doing a lot better then we are. Like I said before, and I will say it till the day I die. Tulsa is so far behind.....................

I have been too, Dallas, Ft Worth, Kansas City Mo. Little Rock Ar. Just all in the last month. Just driving around you can see so many things to do, people look alive.....

Nascar?! oh god.. the national white trash convention. I know, lets put a Nascar track, casino, and the state fair all in one spot. There would be a shortage of teeth but the entertainment value would rock!

Tega:

Nascar?! oh god.. the national white trash convention. I know, lets put a Nascar track, casino, and the state fair all in one spot. There would be a shortage of teeth but the entertainment value would rock!

I hear that. I wanted to go watch NASCAR in person but I didn't want to give Shari a black eye so she would fit in.

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MrsPR USA:

patriot1947:

Sorry, I know you are right, I am all for progress, just in my opinion this is not really progress, it is like painting an old rotten fence with a new shiny coat of paint, it looks good, but underneath it is still just an old rotten fence. I feel that is what Tulsa is trying to do, they want to look good without actally investing themselves emotionally or logically. Don't know if you have ever seen the Elvis Presley movie called "Stay Away Joe", saw it long ago, never forgot this one part,and what Tulsa is doing reminds me of the way they remodeled their house in the movie.  Do you live in Tulsa? How long have you lived here? If you don't mind my asking.

I assume your talking to me: I live in Broken Arrow now. I have only lived here just over a year. I moved from Tulsa and lived there for over 20 years. I have lived on every side of town. N,S,E and W.

No, I cant say I have seen any of Elvis movies. What I see thou, is Tulsa trying....We have a Mayor that may not be great to some, but at least she is trying to do something for Tulsa. I cant say that for too many other Mayors.

Some people say we dont need to copy other city's or state's but look at their economy. Look at their roads etc... They are doing a lot better then we are. Like I said before, and I will say it till the day I die. Tulsa is so far behind.....................

I have been too, Dallas, Ft Worth, Kansas City Mo. Little Rock Ar. Just all in the last month. Just driving around you can see so many things to do, people look alive.....

  Yes, I was talking to you.While I admire your optimistic view, I don't see us making any real progress, I see pet projects being promoted without any real regard as to what the citizens want. It is true that we are behind, this has not always been true, in the past we were considered a very livible city. I have been to all the cities you mentioned, and yes they do have things to do, they also don't feel compelled to raze every historic building they have and rebuild something made of glass and steel, or get rid of their amusement parks and such. As far as our Mayor goes, you can have her because I think she is a wealthy, elitist snob who doesn't care about quality of living for the people of Tulsa, but only about making Tulsa LOOK prosperous and progressive for her own social agenda, I think she stinks to high heaven, and I would love the opportunity to tell her so. So even though I respect your right to your opinion, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree for now.