oops I meant Victor

I was thinking about someone else while I was typing sorry

No-3 boys I am in no way in agreement with the view points or acts of the KKK.  Just because I believe illegal aliens are breaking the laws of this country (which they are) does not mean I believe in the principles of the KKK.  I find your statement without merit or basis.

No I am not a bitter person.  Yes I do practice what I preach, as you put it.  I do not knowingly break the laws set forth in this country on a daily basis. 

No I never said it could not be fixed.  Perhaps they should apply for citizenship before entering the country?  Just a thought.  I understand the wait time for that is a much shorter waiting period. 

Again, I do not believe in breaking the law knowingly and that is what ILLEGAL aliens are doing.

oh-LOL point taken-apology accepted.

Its funny I own a small car lot in tulsa  , just 1 week ago   a white leady came to my car lot  and had a fake identety she  use  a fake name fake dl and ssn , to purches a  car well she stole 2 cars from me . I think the police an the goverment should do somthing about caching this  bad people  no meter what race are they . we all came from another countries whit one  dream have a better life for our families . Why the indians dont say nothing ?  ,this girl that came to my car lot  is now in jail , but the police told me that she is going to get out , is  that ok ? so you guys whant to kick all the good workers , the ones that do the jobs that anotherones dont whant to do  and put all the efors of the police   on this. sted of taking care of the bad people that comit crimes . tha is not fear.

Of course it isn't ok that she broke the law.  Just like it is not ok that people cross the border illegally and enter the U.S.  It does not matter if they have good intentions of being hard working individuals supporting their families or not.  The laws were broken when they entered illegally.  follow the rules and become legal and there is no problem.  Break the law, well then pay the consequences.  It is as simple as that.

 

So Sunshine, you mean to tell me you have never broke the law.  Never took an orange light, you don't speed.  Never done something against the law, wow I thought only Jesus was perfect.  Well I guess Sunshine is too.

Lets be real about this, we break the law and we pay the fine and get forgiven.  Why after so many years of allowing illegals to be here we just want to throw out like yesterdays trash.  Why can't our goverment make the pay a fine, forgive them and give them the chance to make it with out any goverment assistance.  No welfare, there are clinics where they can pay based on their income.  I work and so does my husband and we have never asked for assistance.

You probably think I have a bleeding heart.  Yes I do.  Every year I do my taxes the goverment screws me out of my money.  I doubt it all goes to the illegals.

Interesting points of view we got going here. Much like the man above who works for a utility company and verifiers information or so (to my understanding), he pin points it down to the fact that Hispanics are mainly responsibly for identify thief.  Hmm, I mean think about it, it makes sense. You would assume that but much like that gentlemen, I also work for a background screening company, and as it turns out, Caucasians are also to blame for identity thief and what’s this? So are African Americans and other minorities beside Latinos, Hmm… WHAT A PREDICAMENT!  WHAT SHALL WE DO?

Well for starters we can stop blaming Latinos! The main focus on immigration is on Latinos. illegal aliens technically pertains to anyone who illegally entered this country but as it just so happens that Latinos are the largest growing minority in the United States so lets blame them!

There have been points brought up about speeding and littering and things of that nature but guess what? it depends on the individual not on the race, the fact that a man witnesses what he claims to be a Hispanic littering and carelessly driving is a shame but it’s something that all humans do, for every race, some are just more responsible and mature than others!  Again, do we want to continue playing the race card? It’s as if Hispanics have become the African Americans of the past. Eventually we’ll all get through this and live in a respectable harmony just like African Americans Did.

Organizations like the KKK will always be here, just like Latinos will always be here, only difference is, we won’t be marching and rallying on our private lots with rage and hate in our eyes and heart. We won’t stash a number of guns and rifles and prepare for a racial war. We won’t use fear as a means of power, we will simply rally, we will simply march and we will simply speak and act in a way that the law and other citizens will have nothing else to do but watch and either comprehend and literally walk in our shoes or simply turn there cheeks because there ancestors paid there dues for them and thanks to GOD, they don’t have to deal nor worry about issues, we now face!

BY THE WAY, A LARGE AMOUNT OF THE HISPANIC AT THE RALLIES/GATHERINGS ARE MEXICAN AMERICAN CITIZENS, PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT ARE PRO 1804 SEEM TO THINK THERE ALL ILLEGAL WHICH COULDN’T BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH!!  

 

 

No I never said I haven't  broken the law.  I said I do not break the law intentionally on a daily basis.  When Illegal aliens come to this country they are breaking the law intentionally.  They choose to do this.  I do not believe they should be rewarded with citizenship because they choose to live outside of the law determined by our government.  The government we put into place via the ballot box. 

Your a smart intelligent lad, I'm glad you stand by your country but what would you know about being on the other side of the debate? Literally, Until you walked a mile in someone else's shoe, will you truely realize the struggle and road that, that man went through! You will never realize what it means or how it affects Latinos until your there yourself and luckly for you my friend, your ancestors paid there dues a long time ago and came to this country so that you could be born here.

Literally I imagine you and your whole family sitting and enjoying life saftely in the confort of your own home, or whever you go. I enjoy that same confort along with my family, but because I know that struggle and I know what it takes do I wish all of my people success and a chance to obtain what we got a chance to obtain. Instead of offering and brain storming and putting together a better plan we got the simple solution of "deportation". There is a reason why the government is taking its time to figoure this out. Oklahoma, Literally said to itself, Screw it! We're going to offer this bill and let the people vote on it and most likely it'll pass since the majority of Oklahomans are white and It'll be the end of it!  

You can say I'm playing the race card but aren't police officers playing the race card to some extend when discriminating against it's citizens because they look hispanic?

TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT, YOUR WILLING TO COPE WITH THE IN-PERFECTION OF OUR LAWS AND SAY SORRY THAT IT HAPPENS BUT YOUR AREN'T WILLING TO COPE WITH THE IDEA THAT AMERICA WAS FOUNDED ON IMMIGRATION AND THAT IMMIGRATION WILL ALWAYS BE AN ISSUE.

 

 

Anti1804:

Your a smart intelligent lad, I'm glad you stand by your country but what would you know about being on the other side of the debate? Literally, Until you walked a mile in someone else's shoe, will you truely realize the struggle and road that, that man went through! You will never realize what it means or how it affects Latinos until your there yourself and luckly for you my friend, your ancestors paid there dues a long time ago and came to this country so that you could be born here.

Literally I imagine you and your whole family sitting and enjoying life saftely in the confort of your own home, or whever you go. I enjoy that same confort along with my family, but because I know that struggle and I know what it takes do I wish all of my people success and a chance to obtain what we got a chance to obtain. Instead of offering and brain storming and putting together a better plan we got the simple solution of "deportation". There is a reason why the government is taking its time to figoure this out. Oklahoma, Literally said to itself, Screw it! We're going to offer this bill and let the people vote on it and most likely it'll pass since the majority of Oklahomans are white and It'll be the end of it!  

You can say I'm playing the race card but aren't police officers playing the race card to some extend when discriminating against it's citizens because they look hispanic?

TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT, YOUR WILLING TO COPE WITH THE IN-PERFECTION OF OUR LAWS AND SAY SORRY THAT IT HAPPENS BUT YOUR AREN'T WILLING TO COPE WITH THE IDEA THAT AMERICA WAS FOUNDED ON IMMIGRATION AND THAT IMMIGRATION WILL ALWAYS BE AN ISSUE.

 

 

I know what your saying, since my son-inlaw went through so much to become legal. But he was treated like dirt from so many Americans before he became legal and he is still treated like dirt, he's been legal for 9 years now. I wouldn't trade my son-inlaw for anything, he is really a "GREAT HUMAN BEING", I'm so "PROUD" of him. Yes, he is a full blooded MEXICAN, he is wonderful to my daughter, and they are having their second baby, he's my second NIETO!  The law has stopped him just to check his status, he has never had any problems with the law.(cricket)

Oh My God!  The Blame America and Americans for everything!!!  The illegals came across a nations sovereign border illegally-what do you not understand about illegal.  I guess the coyotes and most of the illegals get the falsified documents from underground illegals - you need to check into the fact that many of these illegals know from the illegal communities who is doing this. 

The slap in our face and disrespect for our laws - a nation that is founded on the Rule of Law...has to be enforced,  The chaos and anarchy that is fomenting in our nation is going to continue to grow.  Americans want our country back - it is too precious a gift from God and too many have fought and died for our freedoms and rights to say no to those who have no respect for what we represent than to give it all away because the elitists in this nation are cowards and want cheap labor and voters added to there lists. 

Thank you Oklahoma for putting some sanity back into what is a special interest, corporate interest, socio-ethnic interests driven take over our nation!

I am only second generation American - my Great-grandparents and Grandparents came here legally.  I know the history and stories of my Great-Grandparents and Grandparents.  They came here to be AMERICAN - to be a part of this nation and create what our forefathers envisioned for the nation - not to change into a bilingual - non-American - divided nation. 

Again, I want to thank Oklahoma - and will be contacting the Diocese in Oklahoma and expressing my disgust with the Catholic Church regarding protecting illegal immigrants.  I am working towards helping Americans first.  The negative effect is immense in our community and it has to stop.  I am Catholic and will no longer tithe the church.  I will donate to those politicians who will stop this madness and take our country back.

Now I considered what you had to day - what say You????

You have no right to be here!!!!  You cannot take this country as your own - you are not a citizen of this country and you have not been invited via the proper channels and trying to steal it...too many others have and are trying to follow America's Rule of Law and this slap in the face and this concept that America and American's owe illegals anything is disgusting!!! 

You cannot spell, write or speak proper English either-and you will not change this country because you think you have been wronged.  The American people have a say in what happens in this country -  not special interest groups, socio-ethnic interest groups or corporations for that matter and we are taking our country back!!!!

All I know is that immigrants no matter their race ,color or religion or where they come from should have to pay $5-10 K when they enter the country and have to start paying taxes,not 33 1/3 like the rest of us but 50% for ten years and not live tax free  for 10 years. and if they are here illegally they should be put in jail and shipped back to their home countries and put in prison and not be able to get off by hiring a fancy lawyer. for a period of 5 years and if they return to the USA and want to become US citizen legally the entrance fee would Quadrupled because they came over illegally.If a child is born here in the US by illegal immigrants then that child is illegal as well the child should not have amnesty. If they have a child here and they are here illegally then they should have to pay  their entrance fee plus double for  the child. Because the child came  from both illegal parents.

SharpKe:

All I know is that immigrants no matter their race ,color or religion or where they come from should have to pay $5-10 K when they enter the country and have to start paying taxes,not 33 1/3 like the rest of us but 50% for ten years and not live tax free  for 10 years. and if they are here illegally they should be put in jail and shipped back to their home countries and put in prison and not be able to get off by hiring a fancy lawyer. for a period of 5 years and if they return to the USA and want to become US citizen legally the entrance fee would Quadrupled because they came over illegally.If a child is born here in the US by illegal immigrants then that child is illegal as well the child should not have amnesty. If they have a child here and they are here illegally then they should have to pay  their entrance fee plus double for  the child. Because the child came  from both illegal parents.

Well, it's a good thing that your not in charge of America, if what you feel for illegals or  them coming to America should apply, then the same should apply for the costs of Americans going to another country, then it would be fair in everyone's eyes. Legalized Americans that commit crimes in America run to Mexico to keep from getting caught, if they had to pay more for a passport, then it would be harder for them to run to a safe country, for protection. In fact Americans should pay double to enter another country, since American's have more money. American's should have a background check done on them before they can enter another country, so many have a record also. (cricket)

Well, it's a good thing that your not in charge of America, if what you feel for illegals or  them coming to America should apply, then the same should apply for the costs of Americans going to another country, then it would be fair in everyone's eyes. Legalized Americans that commit crimes in America run to Mexico to keep from getting caught, if they had to pay more for a passport, then it would be harder for them to run to a safe country, for protection. In fact Americans should pay double to enter another country, since American's have more money. American's should have a background check done on them before they can enter another country, so many have a record also. (cricket)

 

works for me  trying getting caught in mexico illegally and see what happens to you....minimum one year in jail then deportation.....

as far as overlooking illegals cause they are breaking the laws to support their families....using that logic i can rob a bank and the cops wont even chase me cause im usin the money to support my family....yep works for me.....